"Why did the British ever let these people in their country in the first place, and why do they let them stay".

Its genrally what happens in britain when people have a british birth certificate and passport!

Contrary to popular biggoted opinion, Islam is not confined to the middle east.

On the matter of the British birth certificate and passport, and also on the matter of Islam not being confined to the ME, Jamal is absolutely right.

The problem is when a particular element of the population put their ideology before their country or the country that has given them refuge and freedom. The problem is not Islam, the problem is Islamism.

And bigotry has not a darned thing to do with it except in the minds of those who subscribe to victimhood and embrace the ummah before their country. This is a middle age mentality, it is not conducive to a free, democratic, and secular society.

As for those that are not "native" to a country, they forfeit their right to stay there the moment they turn against it and its values. It is these that should be deported. The native born are yet another problem, and they and their Islamist ideology make themselves incompatible with British society.

Good paper, i've just translated it in french. If you want to have a look, see the link.

Passports can be stripped just asked the German Jews who were stripped of their citizenship. Crazy British Muslims can't hide behind them forever. Act right or get out!

I like Edward's way of thinking, especially the part about acting right or getting the hell out.

AS A MUSLIM MYSELF I DO NOT DENY THAT WHAT MY PEOPLE ARE DOING IS WRONG BUT IN SOME WAYS THEY ARE RIGHT IF THE BRISTISH AND US TROOPS LEAVE ISLAMIC COUNTRIES ALONE AND LET THEM LIVE THERE LIFES THEN THEY WONT HAVE TO HARM ANYONE IN ANY OTHER COUNTRIES . IN OUR RELIGION WE BELIEVE THAT DEATH CAUSED BY A HUMAN IS WRONG BUT I BELIEVE IF ENGLAND AND THE US ARE KILLING INNOCENT THEM WHY SHOULD WE ALLOW THIS .

Toneka's comments are so typical of the attitudes of many Muslims who blame the ills of their own culture and ideology on the West's response to Muslim violence throughout the world.

And blaming the West for the inhuman violence in Iraq and elsewhere is perhaps the most idiotic, defend-the-ummah-blame-the-West comment of all. Even the most anti-Western media report that Muslim-on-Muslim violence ending in death and injury is the cause of the mayhem there, and that the Western forces is in fact doing its level best to stop it.

Muslims are killing Muslims. I repeat, it's Muslims who are responsible for the overwhelming number of Muslim deaths. How f**king stupid do you have to be not to get it!!!

As for leaving Islamic countries alone, it is the Islamic countries that are responsible for the spread of radical Islamic terrorism throughout the world. It is misguided Muslims, just like Toneka, unable to separate ideology and political Islam from the political spectrum, that help perpetuate Muslim radicalism.

For whatever reason, perhaps because for many Muslims Islam does not separate religion from politics as is the case with all other religions in the world no longer living in the Middle Ages, Muslims have difficulty being true citizens of the country that has given them refuge and freedom that just doesn't exist in Islamic countries. This has got to change, or just as Ahmadinejad, Hezbollah, Hamas, and all the Muslims in the world that suffer from the plague of radical Islamic ideology wish for, the world will indeed become embroiled in a world-ending battle to the death of all. Sick, sick, sick. Get over it, we are in the 21st century, not the stone age.